Dave's Rating:

1.0

Tyler Perry strikes (out) again.

Who's In It: Loretta Devine, Kimberly Elise, Whoopi Goldberg, Macy Gray, Janet Jackson, Thandie Newton, Phylicia Rashad, Anika Noni Rose, Tessa Thompson, Kerry Washington

The Basics: A group of loosely connected women--some of them inhabiting the same apartment building, the others crossing their paths--live life in an agonizingly dumb Tyler Perry melodrama and pause every now and then to look at the camera and deliver flowery, poetic (and lengthy) monologues originally created by playwright Ntozake Shange in 1974 for her Tony Award-winning "choreopoem" titled For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow is Enuf. It's only jarring and exhausting if you have a thing for non-silly/non-shrieking adaptations of iconic theater pieces.

What's The Deal: The movie destroyer best known for Madea Goes to Jail is back again and this time he wants an Oscar nomination. To that end he's put a lot of really good actresses (and Janet Jackson) into a big lurching truck of exposition and hollering and driven them over a cliff of insanity into a lake made from everybody crying so much. Don't care much for the gentle, fluid, mournful prose-poetry of Ntozake Shange? Then just wait a second until Anika Noni Rose finishes up swirling around while rhapsodizing over Cuban salsa music and silky dresses. When that confusing stuff is over, the wacky telenovela dialogue and situations Tyler Perry wrote to solder it all together cranks into gear, the story-moving characters begin to fight and dangle their helpless, abused children from third-story windows and everybody starts screaming, "SHUT UP BITCH!" at each other. You'll really like those parts.

The Person I Spent A Lot Of Time Thinking About: Kasi Lemmons. It's okay if you don't know her name. She's the acclaimed African-American director of the fantastically strange Eve's Bayou. Go put it in your Netflix queue. I wondered how she (or other female directors like Julie Dash, Sanaa Hamri or Cheryl Dunye) would have approached this material. Maybe she would have left well enough alone and not even tried to adapt emotionally weighty soliloquies about bodies and struggle, reveries that regularly spin into the air with images of "lilies and moonstones." Maybe she'd have tried to patchwork it into a linear story too. But something tells me it still wouldn't have turned out like this very special rape-and-doom-themed episode of 227.

Who Emerges Unscathed: Almost everyone in the cast is too talented for this, but Kimberly Elise, Phylicia Rashad, Anika Noni Rose and Kerry Washington still manage to come out ahead. And Loretta Devine gets to have all the best "And I Am Telling You"-style monologues. But the wickedly talented Thandie Newton plays a one-note angry slut and Whoopi Goldberg takes on the thankless role of claws-out nutjob, an updated Piper Laurie in Carrie.

What Men Can Learn About Themselves From This: That all they do is sexually assault, hit, punch, ignore, impregnate, cheat and get their toxic down-low gayness all over unsuspecting women. Perry forgot to include a shirtless, church-going, blue collar "good man" in this one. If you want that then go watch Daddy's Little Girls.

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Bill the Cat - 11-07-2010 3:05 AM
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Ugh. So someone is a racist because they dint get "black movies"? How effen racist! Tyler Perry makes shit movies,that's it, fin. And the tool who started his post off by saying he has a black girlfriend, WTF?! Why should you have to qualify your non racist mentality before you tear into a hopelessly terrible movie? This is America, we shouldn't have to defend ourselves against useless charges of racism because we don't care for crappy movies. Like, I saw "Carwash" and loved it so I'm not a racist, but this movie stinks. Duh! All Tyler Perry movies are absolute crap,it doesn't take a racist to know this, just someone with enough sense to know crap from good movies. OMG, here's a surprise, I hate some white people movies too, lol.

wondering - 11-07-2010 6:26 AM
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I would like to know the criteria that Dave utilizes to determine the "goodness" of a movie. I also agree with others that this is just Daves opinion. I have never run into any movie critic that I agree with 100%, have you? I have not always liked every movie that has won an Oscar either. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and therefore, whether or not you like any movie is your personal decision.

Thalia - 11-07-2010 6:38 AM
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It is amazing that a title of a movie defines the movie to ignorant idividuals. There are more colors in the world other than black or white. And just because Mr.Perry chose to use an all black cast do not mean that black women are the only women going through these kind of situations. The movie was writen for women of color (all colors). Wheither you want to listen to the music or not it is still playing and sometimes the song is not nice. The truth is right now so many woman are still going through the abuse, the cheating and most of all the lack of loving themselves. We as women need to realize we are more than what we have been given. So for all that this movie have offended get over it and move on the truth truly hurts. Great Job Tyle

Fabby - 11-07-2010 7:54 AM
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I'm an African American woman in her forties. I have never been a fan of Tyler Perry although I do applaud him for finding his niche and being very successful at it. Everything isn't for everybody. I love movies of all genres. I do think his focus is sometimes too geared toward the empowerment of black women via the way of putting down her male counterpart. I'm not saying there isn't any truth in that I'm just saying having we heard enough about the same ole same ole? Eve's Bayou,Soulfood were examples of "black life" complete with all the indiscretions, abuse however its not what you say but how you say it. I think Tyler is talented but he needs to work on how to say it because its still very amateur. I think Dave's review was on point.

Dawn - 11-07-2010 8:08 AM
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I went to see this movie yesterday, and it is the best movie Tyler Perry has ever done. Granted, some of his movies are not that good but this one left me emotionally charged. Let Dave have his opinion, that's all it is. I'm a Black female and i can relate to the movie. Enuf said!!!

Sharon - 11-07-2010 9:36 AM
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Dave... white male. I will "defend to the death your right to be wrong." I don't like or agree with most of your reviews, and this movie is no exception. Your bad review makes me want to see a movie ..even though I hadn't thought about going before I read your review.

Miss Jones - 11-07-2010 10:21 AM
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I'm not sure if you actually even got the plot of the whole movie or even understand its importance. The movie was very poetic. It's for woman who ever thought about suicide. Lot of strong scenes between sisters, mother daughter relationships, etc It's not just about woman in their relationships with their men’s, another thing their actually was a man who play as the good blue collar guy, his name is Hill Harper, not only was he there for his own wife, but he was also there for the other women who were hurt throughout the movie. When watching the movie you really need to listen to all the words; about the girl losing her virginity in the back of the Buick, Janet Jackson's tired of sorry, and the actress who couldn't have kids and her story

ILoveNtozakeShange - 11-07-2010 2:52 PM
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I am still in awe of the original award winning broadway production, and the book "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow is Enuf" a choreopoem by Ntozake Shange. No one can tell the story like the author! Love you Ntozake Shange! I have not seen the movie yet; need more time to convince myself that seeing it won't tarnish my memories of the first time I read her book, or saw the award winning broadway play by Ntozake Shange. If Tyler Perry's movie version was needed to get people to pick up a book, then I am all for it. Me I would rather read or see live theatre than the watered down movie version of art.

DJ - 11-07-2010 5:12 PM
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If you dont like, dont understand, or havent watched his movies than dont comment. Everyone have their own opinions but why are you commenting on something you havent watched.

Marilyn - 11-07-2010 5:21 PM
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Poor white man review. The movie was genius. It is rare talent that can still gives a stage presence to a film. Performances were over the top (like stage) in a few instances, but over-all believable. Movie left me feeling emotionally charged. Good job to all involved.

Lexy - 11-07-2010 9:57 PM
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I think that he did an outstanding job! Why can't we just accept that fact that you are not going to be able to please the WHOLE world. This is real life happenings. Then let us look at STEPHEN KING'S MOVIES. What or who wants to always see killings?

Denise Jackson - 11-08-2010 1:12 AM
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"a lot of really good actresses (and Janet Jackson)" Dave, you crack me up. I enoy your reviews a great deal. As a woman of color(s), I love how you do not kowtow to post modern liberal guilt. We are all just children in the garden of Eden. Write on my chubby bro!

EEBSEB - 11-08-2010 6:47 AM
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I just wanted to know whether or not you all liked the movie, why and why not. I don't want the other BS.

ox - 11-08-2010 7:00 AM
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Who every hired u needs too fire U. U couldn't tell shit stink!

Y'all are stoopid - 11-08-2010 12:06 PM
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I enjoy your reviews. They are entertaining and informative and I enjoy your use of language. Whether or not I agree with you is unimportant, as I still enjoy reading the reviews. This comment section, however, blows.

Filmoetonyc - 11-08-2010 1:22 PM
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Dave you really need to know the back ground of the movie before you to to hit on the stereo-types. This is a play that struggled back in the 70's for telling truth of what goes on with black women and their struggle then and now. Perry just brought it to the big screen.

Coffee - 11-08-2010 1:48 PM
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I did not like this review...so much so that I was compelled to comment. I'm not too familiar with Dave so I won't bash him but I will defend Tyler Perry and say thank you for making movies that put black folks on the screen. If all we can get is one star, I'll take it. For now I'm just glad we're being watched. Haters, hate on!

Ms Carol - 11-08-2010 5:46 PM
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Dave did you see the movie? Remember the character played by Hill Harper. In reponse to your last statement and yes some men do assault rape impregnate, and give their wives or girlfriends Hiv. It's a movie I highly recommend. I saw the original stage play I felt the same emotions watching the movie. I might add that what happens to colored girls happens to girls of other races as well. It's universal.

Rena - 11-08-2010 6:53 PM
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Sistahs...the movie is named "For Colored Girls". It is not for Dave White to relate. He can only imagine.

Deborah - 11-08-2010 8:52 PM
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Dave; it's clear you didn't like the movie but who cares what you think. Please, people, Dave is a critic don't get mad with him; it is just an opinion. He does, however, sound like a real "woody allen" fan. How many of you can get that joke. Oh Dave, I did love Eve's Bayou.

mark jackson - 11-08-2010 9:32 PM
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tyler perry is a sucessful director who is worth over 300 million dollars while ol'white dave is a jealous bigot, movie critic ( if u can call him that) who makes $50k a year if he is lucky...tyler perry is laughing all the way to the bank!!!

Chaka Elam - 11-09-2010 9:55 AM
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Dave, the movie title is "FOR COLORED GIRLS", why are you even reviewing this film? lol seriously dude, your wording is pretty gay, get a life.

The Reaper - 11-09-2010 12:46 PM
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Marty get your gay ass out of this conversation. How dare you compare being homosexual to the harsh inhumanities that African Americans have faced for hundreds of years. Homosexuality has only really prevailed in recent history, you guys weren't made slaves or killed in LARGE amounts on a REGULAR day. You have your share of struggles and problems don't get me wrong, but never can you say it's on the same level or ever has been on the same level as being black in racist america.

bh - 11-09-2010 1:05 PM
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Wow Reaper, thats probably one of the most insensitive ways you could state your disagreement. There is no need for American minorities to duel about who's had a harder time. The consequences for homosexuals in America(the world) is different than the consequences of being black. You also don't need to other a whole population by saying "you guys" as if black people aren't gay. Have some respect for cross-sectionality and have some respect for your fellow man before you divulge your frustrated opinion.

A. - 11-09-2010 10:10 PM
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Useless, pointless review!!! And what's funny is that I've been perusing the web and this kind of stupid, biased, allegedly thoroughly thought reviews, are all made by white men. WTF??? You all went seeing that movie with a bias: "This Tyler Perry a.k.a. Madea, buckle up cause it's gonna suck!". Are you that limited people? Date-rape, abortion, domestic violence are only experienced by black women? And the male actors who portray such a lousy picture of black men are maybe Oreos? They never thought that they could be associated with the clichés you guys are conveying by your critics, not the movie? Geez!!! Talk about seeing everything through the racial lens! I guess the comments would have been the same with an all-white cast. My point: wh

A. - 11-09-2010 10:15 PM
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My point: same movie adaption made with an all-white cast and I bet everyone would say the topics are universal. Non-white cast? This is just another attempt of whining for no reason. To all the women and men out there, go see the movie and make your opinion about it!!! Gay men struggling with coming out? Is it only a colored people problem? Date-rape, getting an abortion, being abused by a spouse, having trouble conceinving, loving your wife despite of her past or her being barren, is it only a blakc thing? C'mon, people!!! See beyond the racial card!

A. - 11-09-2010 10:26 PM
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To all the black men who feel ostracized or targeted by Tyler Perry's movies, I have one thing to ask you: that much of a chip on your shoulder? Please!!! Someone with a good self-esteem won't be affected by a representation made in a movie if it has nothing to do with him. I am a black woman and I have never watched a Tyler Perry's movie and then conclude that my brothas aren't worth the trouble. This is plain retarded and the men who feel attacked in their manhood by a movie, please go see a therapist.

CP - 11-10-2010 9:33 AM
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I have to admit that the last couple of Tyler Perry's movies have been bad(esp.Why Did I Get Married 2). I actually enjoyed his plays better with the exception of Madea's comedic genius in the movie versions. The characters in most of his stuff are one dimensional and stereotyped.I applaud him for bringing some excellent Black actors into the spotlight, because some of them are really great, but most of the time I watch one of his movies, it is VERY predictable.However, I can see why people relate to it and will support it. Tyler has found a niche, that no one else has been able to develop as well. That being said,I can understand why a movie critic, black or white, would find some of his movies less appealing than Tyler's fans do.

Diamond - 11-10-2010 11:33 AM
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I agree with Dave's review.. I am a black woman and I loved the analogy to the doom and gloom 227.. That movie was horrible and it is terrible depiction of black men..

Bilal Najeeullah - 11-10-2010 5:41 PM
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good movie

Walter Harris - 11-11-2010 8:43 AM
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I am listening to people speak about how it attacked Black men, but no one seen the Black Man that supported his wife, no matter what she sent through. The movie displayed so much of what is not talked about with African American Women and they are brought up to just suck up pain. Try walking in a black women shoes and come back and tell me what size she wears. Tyler displayed this play into a movie, that I hope and pray that all families will take a day and take their children and go home and have a discussion so that the kids will no that they can come to either parent to talk about anything. To all wake up and pay attention

meek - 11-11-2010 10:35 AM
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unfortunately, tyler perry is the epitome of "when the blind lead the blind, we all fall in a ditch" and sadly enough a black person or anyone of that matter cant not like this movie without it being met with "you just hating" tyler perry since he is worth millions, cant do no wrong in the eyesight of some people. this movie was terrible. it as the same ole mess he been doing for the last 10 years. the plot was predictable. the dialogue was simple and those poems were just forced. and it was corny how tyler seemed to want to give every big actor in the movie her turn to try and get a oscar, the teary eyed scenes were forced as well. tyler perry is a pimp who pimps the hurt and emotions of black women for his financial gain.

Tired of Drama - 11-11-2010 6:53 PM
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Dave I really feel you should not critic no black movie. He can not relate to black culture. How can you teach a subject if you don't know nothing about it. If I was in his position I would just post "NO COMMENT" I am a black woman and I can relate with some of the CHARACTERS' Thank You Tyler Perry for not forgetting whats really important in our culture and how we can over come adversity! Dave this is not a one colored world anymore. You need to open up your eyes and understand whats going on around you. But I guess to love the BROKE BACK MOUNTAIN with TWO GAY COWBOYS COMING OUT IN THE WOODS?! Does that float your Boat? SN: your racism is showing! (smh)

Timothy - 11-12-2010 2:32 AM
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Dave: How did you get this job? You are the worst critic ever and this takes the case. You say this movie sucks but do not say why? Afraid of something? Anyways, if you do not get the point to the movie maybe you should go back to high school, if you were every there in the first place. Get a job in which you do not need to think to hard because if you can understand what this movie is about and how important the message is then you do not have a clue. My review of your work: "It sucks!"

Adrienne - 11-12-2010 11:34 AM
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My people, my people. Some of your post are truly insulting to me as a black woman. If a movie is good, anyone should be able to critique it. A movie shouldn't be geared only towards one sex or one race. And why is Dave a racist if he didn't like the movie??? There are too many REAL racists out there that we can't keep watering down the word!! Plus, Mr. Perry is a terrible film maker. Yeah, I said it!! His movies are so one-dimensional and transparent. He has such a gift of a large following but he chooses to PANDER to his audience and dumb down his material. It is truly a slap in the face to the intelligence of my black race. Challenge us, Mr. Perry! Make me go to the theater to think...you have such power in your hands and you don't us

Geoff - 11-12-2010 12:03 PM
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Dave you are right on the money! The movie was awful and I was disappointed by the waste of so many of the actress' talents. TP has alot of opportunity to actually do the right thing and make something of quality...but he doesn't--now that's worth crying over.

Monica - 11-13-2010 11:10 AM
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Excellent movie! It was thought provoking & hopefully introduced many who are not familiar with poetry such as Langston Hughes or Nikki Giovanni for example. The cast was amazing. The experiences were hard to watch, but these are issues which need to be discussed, whether one is of color or not. See the movie, learn & grow !

Kenetha - 11-13-2010 3:11 PM
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I am a person and that's what matters only! My race has no importance here! TP movies can be a up lifter, all we as Americans see is racism. To the person that decided to let the world know that his girlfriend is black that is a prime example of my point. No matter her color or yours love has no race. And in TP movies he shows real life of people period not only blacks. And I have many friends that are of many races that are TP fans and even though they may not be able to relate they can understand. We have no idea of the things TP went through or saw in his life so why are we judging him and down grading his name. As for Dave this is my first time reading your work and I must say that sometimes we fear the unknown and it makes us think neg

MXD - 11-18-2010 10:52 PM
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I have yet to see this movie, and I don't want to, because everything I have seen from Tyler Perry is simplistic, amateurish one-dimensional and cliche, in the worst way. He panders to an uneducated audience, evidently because that audience exists, and he's either lazy or untalented, or both. And that has nothing to do race - it's just a fact. Fortunately for him there does seem to be an audience for his brand of dreck. Really unfortunate.

Bookbear - 11-19-2010 1:27 AM
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Dave, you're not a black woman so you can't comment. Um...but you're not an alien being either, so does that make you review of Skyline bullshit as well? Wait, though. I've met you. I take that back about not being an alien being.

Monica - 11-20-2010 4:20 PM
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Have to love sarcasm. It's a way to deflect from reality. The truth is it was a great movie, although difficult to watch, but so is the evening news (not being sarcastic either) If you know anything about Tyler, he is a phenominal individual. He has helped single mom's get on their feet, has helped the disadvanged in New Orleans, etc. etc. So, no matter what he will always do well. His movies will always be supported b'cause of his awesome humility & for that alone, I will always see his movies. Never missed a single play & will never miss his movies. Not to mention, whether you like the quality of his work, there is always a powerful message via humor or pain. See it people !

mookbear - 11-27-2010 8:08 AM
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I am an African-American-born and raised on the south side of Chicago & saw a lot- woman who paid to see this movie(approximately 18 months after seeing the play) and my opinion is-THIS MOVIE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF SHOWING AS THE ABC SATURDAY NIGHT MOVIE.(Do they still show those?) Does that make me racist? Let's get real. people! A good movie is a good movie, and a bad one is-FOR COLORED GIRLS. Just sayin!

Chery2you - 11-27-2010 4:45 PM
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I usually love the movie when white critics give it bad ratings....truth is they are not us and cannot Identify with our experience or culture. Chery

Denise - 12-01-2010 5:11 PM
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I thought the movie was great. I'm sure everyone know someone or can associate with one of the characters and it has nothing to do with black or white. Dave, how did ou rate Forrest Gump?

Valdez - 12-08-2010 8:08 AM
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This is a excellent movie. If you ask me, your opinion doesn't matter anyway. I'm tired of people who is not even African American stating their bias opinions on black movies. You have no idea what we go through and I know there is poverty in other races as well, however I don't recall Whites going through slavery, dealing with the KKK, and Jim Crow Laws, that the government initiated against our people. Because of our ANCESTORS struggles with freedom in our past, we are a struggling and divided society today. We have our people killing each other and most of our icons are brainwashed, thinking because they making millions that they are not getting screwed over. So don't tell any of us BLACKS to stop living in our ancestors past.

Valdez - 12-08-2010 8:15 AM
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In a perfect world, them Jim crow laws, racisms, and the KKK wouldn't even exist. You people kill me commenting telling a black person to stop living in the past. Me, as a black person, will kindly remind any WHITE man or woman how jacked up there races is, and how jacked up you screwed up this country. I mean, you literally had to fight for our rights, just to vote. Are you kidding me? I'm curious, i'm sure that black girlfriend of yours is only with you because you probably have a good source of income, and she's tired of dealing with her own kind having little to none. If this country wasn't so dam segregated, and we can actually get jobs, then you wouldn't stand a chance with competing for a black woman, vs a black man.

Ms. B - 2-12-2011 3:19 PM
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I could not disagree more with the review. This was the best movie I have seen this year. I was in tears throughout most of it. I'm not a huge Tyler Perry fan but this was his best work ever. I have seen the play live and reda it myself. It's not for everyone. Those of us who got it loved it. I would recommend this movie to anyone.

MrGram - 2-26-2011 5:03 PM
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Finally saw it on cable TV a few days ago. It's clearly the pick of TP's awful litter. He's an abominable screenwriter, adapter, and director. I'm a huge Thandie Newton fan but she was completely miscast and Loretta Devine was once again typecast in that all-to-familiar role. The screen adaptation would have been better served by centering the movie on Kim Elise's character. The ensemble cast framework did the story no justice on screen. The movie was all over the place, lacked nuance, poorly paced, and in too big a hurry to tidy things up at the end. It's only salvation was the fact that TP didn't write the source material. Spanish director Pedro Almodovar tackles similar themes in his great movies except he does it far better.

still about race? - 4-26-2011 11:51 AM
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I've read through these comments and I sit here now just shaking my head. Why is it that we live in the most culturally diverse nation in the world and in 2011 WE ARE STILL SO HUNG UP ON RACIAL TENSION?!?!?! Grow up America...Black, White, Asian, Middle Eastern, African, Hispanic and anyone I accidentally left out; We are all losing loved ones in a senseless war, all overpaying out the ass for gasoline and all feeling the sting of a screwed up economy!!! Its a movie & someone should be able to offer their opinion without it becoming such a stupid racial debate! Don't worry about my race...it doesn't matter, I'm proud to be who I am & love the skin I'm in.

Savannah - 11-23-2013 7:56 AM
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I feel Mr Perry can relate to all types of life's experiences because of his own back ground. People who have seen and bare witness to the ugly side of life can successfully write or even make movies about these experiences. I say any person that can go through the type of hell Tyler Perry has gone through and have come out on the side "sane" and has been able to become a great movie writer and stage actor and director GOD BLESS him.........

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