Listen: Frank Grillo and Anthony Mackie Fight Over Who Kicks More Ass in 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier'

Listen: Frank Grillo and Anthony Mackie Fight Over Who Kicks More Ass in 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier'

Jul 23, 2013

It's always difficult to speak to actors and filmmakers months before a particular movie hits theaters because most of the time they're not allowed to reveal much of anything about the movie they worked on. This was definitely an obstacle when we sat down with Anthony Mackie, Emily VanCamp and Frank Grillo to discuss their roles in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which doesn't hit screens until April 4, 2014. 

The problem was, well, they couldn't tell us much of anything. While we did get Emily VanCamp to kinda-sorta confirm that she'll be playing Sharon Carter (aka Agent 13) in the Captain America sequel, Frank Grillo was quick to remind us that he isn't necessarily playing the Bane-like villain Crossbones even if the character he is playing turns into Crossbones in the comics. "There's an origin to the character -- an arc that might or might not take place now. The whole mask thing and costume thing is absurd. What I am is the most vicious and powerful... that's all I can say!"

Anthony Mackie, on the other hand, wasn't letting his costars get off that easily. Mackie plays the well-known Captain America ally the Falcon, who most definitely wreaks havoc on the film's villains. Well, according to him at least. "[to Grillo] I kick your ass, man. C'mon kid -- I got it on video! I kick your ass!" Mackie continued to discuss how the relationship between Falcon and Captain America is more of a working one, "like comrades or buddies than Batman and Robin," he said. 

"People think conceptually about bad or good, and this movie moves away from that," Grillo added. "It's more two ideologies. It's less bad guy and good guy, which makes this one different from a lot of the other superhero movies." "I think this one is more of an action movie," Mackie added. "It's like Avengers 1.5 meets Jason Bourne." VanCamp agreed. "I think [the movie] is rooted in a reality where you can actually envision these things happening right now, which makes it that much more interesting to watch because you're sort of participating with it instead of watching something heightened. I thought that was very appealing," she said.

You can listen to the entire interview below (note there are volume changes), and in particular you'll enjoy the way Mackie and Grillo continually trash-talk each other. That combined with an amazing footage presentation (read reactions to that here) definitely make this one of our most anticipated 2014 movies.










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